Harris and Trump offer new details about policies and strategy in dueling interviews

Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris chats with the hosts during a commercial break at The View, Tuesday, Oct. 8, 2024, in New York. From left are Sara Haines, Ana Navarro, Whoopi Goldberg, Harris, Joy Behar and Sunny Hostin. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

WASHINGTON (AP) 鈥 As the presidential race moves into its final weeks, Democrat Kamala Harris and Republican Donald Trump embarked on an interview blitz that offered new details about their policy priorities and their political strategies.

In recent days, Harris has sat with , whose radio show is especially popular among younger and Black audiences, and appeared in a combative 30-minute interview on Fox News, typically a safe haven for Republicans. Trump, meanwhile, participated in a with the editor of Bloomberg News at an economic forum in Chicago, though the crowd was friendly to him, and participated in town halls on Fox News and the Spanish-language network Univision.

Here are some takeaways from the cascade of appearances:

Controlled campaigns are going public 鈥 with risks

Both candidates have largely avoided traditional interviews during the campaign, preferring to sit before friendly hosts, often in nontraditional media settings. The two-day interview marathon was a noteworthy partial break from that strategy.

Harris, whom the Trump campaign hammered for after replacing President at the top of the Democratic ticket, has this month. The vice president appeared on ABC's 鈥淭he View,鈥 spoke with radio host and taped a show with late-night comedian , among other appearances. She also sat down with the newsmagazine 鈥60 Minutes,鈥 as is traditional for presidential candidates, while Trump canceled his appearance with the show.

with anchor Bret Baier on Wednesday seemed designed to show her willingness to face any questioner, especially after Trump bailed on 鈥60 Minutes.鈥 The risks of that became apparent quickly as Baier challenged her immediately on immigration and often interrupted her afterward.

In contrast, Trump, in his Chicago interview Tuesday, frequently spoke over Bloomberg editor-in-chief John Micklethwait and even insulted him as the audience cheered Trump on. Micklethwait challenged Trump's support for tariffs and his plans to pay for his campaign promises.

The former president also faced a friendly all-women audience in a Fox News town hall before participating in a town hall on the Spanish-language network Univision, where he faced pointed questions from Latino voters. Like Harris, Trump is trying to broaden his coalition to get the key votes he needs to win the neck-and-neck race. So, for him as well, every interview counts.

Trump offers tacit acknowledgment that he's vulnerable on abortion

Trump has repeatedly said he is proud of his leading role in the reversal of Roe v. Wade. But his latest comments on abortion serve as a fresh reminder that the Republican understands that the issue is dangerous politically for him and his party.

He was forced to defend his position when asked a surprisingly pointed question from the all-women audience at a Fox News town hall.

鈥淲omen are entitled to do what they want to and need to do with their bodies, including their unborn. That鈥檚 on them regardless of the circumstance,鈥 the questioner said. "Some are necessary to save their own lives. Why is the government involved in women鈥檚 basic rights?鈥

Trump initially responded with his typical refrain that the issue had been returned to the states. But he also acknowledged that some of the state laws are 鈥渢oo tough.鈥 And he went further: 鈥淎nd this is going to be redone, because already there鈥檚 a movement in those states ... to redo it."

It's not exactly clear what Trump was referring to. There is little evidence that pro-Trump Republican officials in states that have adopted strict abortion bans, some that take effect before many women realize they're pregnant, are taking action to 鈥渞edo鈥 their laws.

A few states with strict bans have this year that would roll them back. That includes Florida, where Trump has criticized the ban as too harsh but also .

The truth is that the reversal of Roe has been a political disaster for Trump's Republican Party. Women have revolted against the GOP in various elections since the Supreme Court ruling. But Trump is betting that muddying the waters with vague promises and a softer tone might limit the damage come November.

Harris agrees that Trump is a 鈥榝ascist鈥 as Trump doubles down on authoritarian rhetoric

Charlamagne pushed the limits of Harris' rhetoric when the Democrat reminded voters that they had 鈥渢wo choices 鈥 and it鈥檚 two very different visions for our nation."

鈥淭he other is about fascism. Why can鈥檛 we just say it?鈥 Charlamagne interjected.

Harris immediately replied, 鈥淵es, we can say that.鈥

It was the first time the vice president so directly and publicly agreed with that kind of language to describe Trump. The exchange underscored Harris' decision to revert to a key Biden argument as Election Day draws near: Democracy is on the line on Nov. 5. And, the Democratic argument goes, Trump is unfit to lead because of his lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 election, his role in the , Capitol riot and his consistent authoritarian rhetoric, among other things.

Trump offered a fresh example during his appearances on Fox and Univision.

When pressed about his supporters' violent attack against the Capitol, Trump defended his loyalists. 鈥淭hat was a day of love from the standpoint of the millions," he said on Univision.

He also refused to back down from his weekend comments that his Democratic rivals represent a more serious threat to the United States than China and Russia. Over the weekend and again in the Fox interview, he called them 鈥渢he enemy within.鈥

Experts have warned that such language is common among authoritarian leaders seeking to quell dissent.

鈥淚t is the enemy from within, and they鈥檙e very dangerous. They鈥檙e Marxists and communists and fascists,鈥 Trump said on Fox, naming former House Speaker and Rep. , D-Calif., who served on the congressional committee that investigated Trump's role in the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Harris tried to hammer Trump over the comments on Fox, but the network played a truncated clip of Trump contending it was 鈥渢he other side鈥 that was a threat to democracy. Harris complained that wasn't a full portrayal of what he said.

Both campaigns are vying to win over Black men

In an election that could be decided on the margins, every vote counts. In the final stretch toward the election, Trump and Harris are turning their focus to Black men.

Harris, in her interview with Charlamagne, warned that Trump wanted to oversee a return to harsh policing tactics known as 鈥渟top and frisk鈥 that disproportionately affect Black men. She promised to push for legislation to address discriminatory law enforcement practices and decriminalize marijuana arrests, which also affect Black men disproportionately. And she said reparations for ancestors of slaves should be studied, a position that isn鈥檛 new but one that Trump has sought to exploit to help strengthen his advantage with white voters.

It was among the first times this campaign season that criminal justice reforms have been a leading talking point for Harris, though they dominated in 2020.

Trump oozed confidence when he addressed Black voters Tuesday. Both parties concede that while Harris is likely to win Black voters overwhelmingly, Trump is eating into her margins, especially among young Black men. Any significant shift could be consequential in a razor-thin election.

鈥淎ny African American or Hispanic, and you know how well I鈥檓 doing there, that votes for Kamala, you鈥檝e got to have your head examined,鈥 Trump said.

Harris said part of her challenge is that Trump鈥檚 campaign is 鈥渢rying to scare people away because otherwise they know they have nothing to run on."

鈥淎sk Donald Trump what is his plan for Black America,鈥 she said. 鈥淎sk him.鈥

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Peoples reported from New York. Riccardi reported from Denver.

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